Breaking News (18.01.2024):
For anyone missed, a new CS organized..in the name of Mr. Homayoun!
Frankly, I like it...really sometimes nice to see and test favorite ones too!
As in recent tour, again two separate tourneys are played, but this time
What is new? e.g as additional, GRAND Duel Match is organized as well..
As I stated before, all belong mainly to 2017 and if you ask why this year?
In short, due to interest.. plus as other reason, simply for more fair cond...
Otherwise, imagine..if SF2024 releases too..it will be not fair..right ?)
E.g only Xiphos 0.6 (released in 2019) is as newest engine (in this tour)
Be aware that too Stockfish 051217 is newest (if comparing all of 2017)
Where Shredder 13 is oldest..released on Oct 2016, but all rest in 2017
In other words, mostly are released in close dates (about 7 years ago..)
For more info about current competition, you can read Goi + OpenChess
GRAND Champion (10m+5s) asmFish - Congrats to asmFish, SF team!
100 games, played at Rapid between both Winners (asmFish vs Houdini)
FOR FINAL STANDINGS:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... on-nn-cs-8
GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/7wpyGRha#LsAmlibnl ... tUhcJkGqxw
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NEW: SCCT - Classic Engine Championship I
Just another new interesting competition, where this time
I'm going to test engines, released many many years ago!
Be aware that mostly planning engines are close to GM level
To be more clear,
All matches will be played via Blitz TC: 4m+2s, later
The highest 4 ranked ones may play Rapid (10m+5s) too!
And if you ask ...why I pick especially 2000 years chess engines...?!
Actually for several reasons...but mainly due to fun..e.g in the past:
I had great pleasure with these engines, sure with others too... besides now
Who knows about what will be influences on fast machine, stronger openings etc.
In other words, via this tour:
No gaining from previous played data, in short: real, as human like chess!
Yes, under Classic cond. is not easy to increase much playing strength...
It's definitely hard..it's something like climbing to Everest mountain, right?)
And as you may see too (in the planning new tour),
Almost all of current engines are released in 2000 year
Exc. Hiarcs, SOS belongs to 1999, Chess Tiger + Yace to 2001
But all other rest engines are belonging to 2000 year!
And I wonder much which engine will be Number ONE
By the way, what is your estimation ?)
Amy 0.7
Anmon 5.09
Chessmaster 8000
Chess Tiger 14
Comet B27
Crafty 17.14
Fritz 6
Gandalf 4.32h
Gromit 3
Hiarcs 7.32
Junior 6
Insomniac 0.69
LambChop 7.10
Little Goliath 3
Nimzo 8
Rebel Century
Shredder 5
SOS
Tao 4.4
TCB 0.45
Yace 0.99.56
ZChess 2.22
More Details:
The above engines are not tested before on my 2x EPYC machine
And let's hope to see no crash, just in case..the engine will be out..
Good luck to all players!
Best,
Sedat
NEW: SCCT - Classic Engine Championship I
Just another new interesting competition, where this time
I'm going to test engines, released many many years ago!
Be aware that mostly planning engines are close to GM level
To be more clear,
All matches will be played via Blitz TC: 4m+2s, later
The highest 4 ranked ones may play Rapid (10m+5s) too!
And if you ask ...why I pick especially 2000 years chess engines...?!
Actually for several reasons...but mainly due to fun..e.g in the past:
I had great pleasure with these engines, sure with others too... besides now
Who knows about what will be influences on fast machine, stronger openings etc.
In other words, via this tour:
No gaining from previous played data, in short: real, as human like chess!
Yes, under Classic cond. is not easy to increase much playing strength...
It's definitely hard..it's something like climbing to Everest mountain, right?)
And as you may see too (in the planning new tour),
Almost all of current engines are released in 2000 year
Exc. Hiarcs, SOS belongs to 1999, Chess Tiger + Yace to 2001
But all other rest engines are belonging to 2000 year!
And I wonder much which engine will be Number ONE
By the way, what is your estimation ?)
Amy 0.7
Anmon 5.09
Chessmaster 8000
Chess Tiger 14
Comet B27
Crafty 17.14
Fritz 6
Gandalf 4.32h
Gromit 3
Hiarcs 7.32
Junior 6
Insomniac 0.69
LambChop 7.10
Little Goliath 3
Nimzo 8
Rebel Century
Shredder 5
SOS
Tao 4.4
TCB 0.45
Yace 0.99.56
ZChess 2.22
More Details:
The above engines are not tested before on my 2x EPYC machine
And let's hope to see no crash, just in case..the engine will be out..
Good luck to all players!
Best,
Sedat
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UPDATE
As usual,
I am very pleased to announce that
I started one of my greatest events !!
Note also that
Some are replaced/updated e.g some of them is
SOS engine, which already belongs to 2000 year...
To be more clear,
Some earlier engine vers are in DOS format...
So no way to test them in my current system setup..
Actually I can.. but too complicated will be....
Anyhow, I think that it's all right.. if nothing else,
JUST FUN TOUR... NOT WORLD CHESS CHAMPIONSHIP )
While I am mentioning about World Chess Championships,
Many of current engines are become as World Champions !
Btw, just one more small point,
No doubt that without the current chess eng masters,
Latest Top engines would not be so strong as nowadays!
And once more many thanks to all eng programmers...
Otherwise, the current exciting tour would not exist!
Anmon 5.09
Chessmaster 8000
Chess Tiger 14
Crafty 17.14
Fritz 6
Gandalf 4.32h
Gromit 3
Hiarcs 7.32
Junior 6
Icarus V1.8
LambChop 7.10
Little Goliath 3
Insomniac 0.69a
Nimzo 8
Patzer 3.11a
Phalax XXII
Rebel Century
Shredder 5
SOS March 2000
TAO 4.4
The Crazy Bishop
Yace 0.99.56
Greetings
As usual,
I am very pleased to announce that
I started one of my greatest events !!
Note also that
Some are replaced/updated e.g some of them is
SOS engine, which already belongs to 2000 year...
To be more clear,
Some earlier engine vers are in DOS format...
So no way to test them in my current system setup..
Actually I can.. but too complicated will be....
Anyhow, I think that it's all right.. if nothing else,
JUST FUN TOUR... NOT WORLD CHESS CHAMPIONSHIP )
While I am mentioning about World Chess Championships,
Many of current engines are become as World Champions !
Btw, just one more small point,
No doubt that without the current chess eng masters,
Latest Top engines would not be so strong as nowadays!
And once more many thanks to all eng programmers...
Otherwise, the current exciting tour would not exist!
Anmon 5.09
Chessmaster 8000
Chess Tiger 14
Crafty 17.14
Fritz 6
Gandalf 4.32h
Gromit 3
Hiarcs 7.32
Junior 6
Icarus V1.8
LambChop 7.10
Little Goliath 3
Insomniac 0.69a
Nimzo 8
Patzer 3.11a
Phalax XXII
Rebel Century
Shredder 5
SOS March 2000
TAO 4.4
The Crazy Bishop
Yace 0.99.56
Greetings
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UPDATE 2
And here are current standings, which is running under Cutechess GUI
Note also Chessbase native ones (ChessTiger, Fritz, Hiarcs, Junior etc)
Will be participated as well, sure they will be played under Fritz GUIs
All the players of Blitz (4m+2s) Classic CS will contain min 500 games...
Have fun,
Sedat
And here are current standings, which is running under Cutechess GUI
Note also Chessbase native ones (ChessTiger, Fritz, Hiarcs, Junior etc)
Will be participated as well, sure they will be played under Fritz GUIs
All the players of Blitz (4m+2s) Classic CS will contain min 500 games...
Code: Select all
Rank Name Elo +/- Games Score Draw
1 Gandalf 4.32h 168 46 194 72.4% 25.3%
2 Chessmaster 8000 167 47 192 72.4% 21.9%
3 Shredder 5 149 47 193 70.2% 21.2%
4 Rebel Century 135 46 194 68.6% 21.6%
5 Little Goliath 3 38 43 195 55.4% 23.6%
6 Yace 0.99.56 18 43 193 52.6% 22.3%
7 Insomniac 0.69a 14 43 194 52.1% 23.7%
8 Phalax XXII -18 45 194 47.4% 16.5%
9 Gromit 3 -38 44 191 44.5% 22.0%
10 AnMon 5.10 -49 44 194 43.0% 22.2%
11 Crafty 17.14 -53 41 193 42.5% 31.1%
12 TAO 4.4 -152 51 194 29.4% 10.3%
13 The Crazy Bishop -159 50 192 28.6% 14.6%
14 LambChop 7.10 -230 54 195 21.0% 14.4%
1354 of 2730 games finished.Sedat
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Breaking News (22.01.2024):
1st of all, here is just another tour...and instead of NON-NNUE, I realized
To name it as Classic CS, meanwhile, what does it means 'Classic' word?
Well, according to many dictionaries: Classic means Highest quality etc.
Ok. let's back to our Computer chess, after reading many of the comments...
NNUE seems to be better or worse? if you ask my opinion.. it all depends....
For stronger openings ideas, analyzing etc.yes..NNUE is excellent choice!
But using NN file (during active and serious games) how much is original?
This is other question of course but I guess via NNUE chess will be solved
Btw, mainly for this reason via my Classic tours...I'm doing my best about
Chess to be remained as unsolved ..you may know, I love much chess..)
And via NNUE, who knows? perhaps 'chess' is already solved e.g under
Serious optimal cond. ?) but what a pity that for right now (since NNUE)
No much data is available...I mean serious tours with optimal conditions..
Btw, forget everything..even the guys who hated Bullet...started to love ))
This saying perfectly suits: Eat a big mouthful but don't make big promises
Nowadays still our good days..if so..future 3700+ matches will be with ultra fast TC?
Yes, since NNUE we see quite frequent bad quality games too...sure I mean
Who prefer the very weak openings in their tests, personally I understand...
Since their target is to see more wins...and as usual (via SCCT book tours):
The ones, who prefer these handicapped openings are ranking at one of last
Places..I mean it's easy to be recognized..Ok let's Me say a few words more
Via this tour, it's like from the past to the present...e.g 2000s year engines on
New decent fast hardware, yes Blitz but if we are going to compare with past..
Then current Blitz games can be counted Slow time control, e.g just imagine
The 2000's hardware with present: a HUGE speed difference in NPS values!
Note that (as in previous, recent.)I managed to organize two separate tours..
What I can say more, the current tour reminded the past...it something like
I watch favorite movies, which never die...e.g one of them: Gladiator 2000
The Champion: Chess Tiger 14 - Congratulations to Christophe Theron!
For FINAL Standings, Games:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... assic-cs-1
Best,
Sedat
1st of all, here is just another tour...and instead of NON-NNUE, I realized
To name it as Classic CS, meanwhile, what does it means 'Classic' word?
Well, according to many dictionaries: Classic means Highest quality etc.
Ok. let's back to our Computer chess, after reading many of the comments...
NNUE seems to be better or worse? if you ask my opinion.. it all depends....
For stronger openings ideas, analyzing etc.yes..NNUE is excellent choice!
But using NN file (during active and serious games) how much is original?
This is other question of course but I guess via NNUE chess will be solved
Btw, mainly for this reason via my Classic tours...I'm doing my best about
Chess to be remained as unsolved ..you may know, I love much chess..)
And via NNUE, who knows? perhaps 'chess' is already solved e.g under
Serious optimal cond. ?) but what a pity that for right now (since NNUE)
No much data is available...I mean serious tours with optimal conditions..
Btw, forget everything..even the guys who hated Bullet...started to love ))
This saying perfectly suits: Eat a big mouthful but don't make big promises
Nowadays still our good days..if so..future 3700+ matches will be with ultra fast TC?
Yes, since NNUE we see quite frequent bad quality games too...sure I mean
Who prefer the very weak openings in their tests, personally I understand...
Since their target is to see more wins...and as usual (via SCCT book tours):
The ones, who prefer these handicapped openings are ranking at one of last
Places..I mean it's easy to be recognized..Ok let's Me say a few words more
Via this tour, it's like from the past to the present...e.g 2000s year engines on
New decent fast hardware, yes Blitz but if we are going to compare with past..
Then current Blitz games can be counted Slow time control, e.g just imagine
The 2000's hardware with present: a HUGE speed difference in NPS values!
Note that (as in previous, recent.)I managed to organize two separate tours..
What I can say more, the current tour reminded the past...it something like
I watch favorite movies, which never die...e.g one of them: Gladiator 2000
The Champion: Chess Tiger 14 - Congratulations to Christophe Theron!
For FINAL Standings, Games:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... assic-cs-1
Best,
Sedat
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Breaking News (26.01.2024):
Today I organized another new competition, where this time I named it as
Revenge 2001..the reason of running it...simply because Chess Tiger 14
Was newer in previous tours, released in 2001, where his opponents were
As slightly older vers., I mean almost all engines are released in 2000 year...
But now..via latest Revenge tour..all players are released in 2001, so I've
Done my best for more fair cond. if nothing else now I feel much better...)
Sure more games needed..but Fritz7 seems to be one of strongest of 2001
What I can say more, it is impossible to find engines, to be released all on
Identical date..sure as same words are going for opening books too..that's
Why sometimes not all in my hands..anyhow just fun tours..simply enjoy..)
The Champion of 2001: Fritz 7 - My Congratulations to Frans Morsch!
For FINAL Standings, Games, Details:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... assic-cs-1
Greetings )
Today I organized another new competition, where this time I named it as
Revenge 2001..the reason of running it...simply because Chess Tiger 14
Was newer in previous tours, released in 2001, where his opponents were
As slightly older vers., I mean almost all engines are released in 2000 year...
But now..via latest Revenge tour..all players are released in 2001, so I've
Done my best for more fair cond. if nothing else now I feel much better...)
Sure more games needed..but Fritz7 seems to be one of strongest of 2001
What I can say more, it is impossible to find engines, to be released all on
Identical date..sure as same words are going for opening books too..that's
Why sometimes not all in my hands..anyhow just fun tours..simply enjoy..)
The Champion of 2001: Fritz 7 - My Congratulations to Frans Morsch!
For FINAL Standings, Games, Details:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... assic-cs-1
Greetings )
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Breaking News (29.01.2024):
1st of all this tour is not Championship..organized in the name of all Gladiators!
Be aware that my CM9000's personality, with name 'CM9 Gladiator' is best of best
Improvement, if comparing with all other tested Chessmaster settings...at least
Under these conditions, yes.. data is perfectly clear...Btw, what a lucky name ?)
For example, in the past with name 'The Gladiator' I used to play on Playchess
Plus I organized series of different Book+Eng Tours with 'Gladiator' name too!
Btw,(for anyone missed) CM9 Gladiator's performance was not so bad: Results
Note that in this tour: as far as possible I picked the highest-rated CM settings..
Sure I refer about other previous results (e.g based on CCRL, CEGT, SCCT etc)
Besides, as you see, all players are carefully picked, which are close in strength..
On other hand, I expected more from others CM settings especially from CM10th..
The current competition is ended.. but there is possibility to be resumed as well..
Note also that soon as possible I plan to organize other new Human-Like tours,
E.g with famous GMs personalities sure as books will be used theirs openings..
Ok chess friends. that's all for now..see you later..and thanks for your interest..)
For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... -gladiator
Have Fun
Greetings
1st of all this tour is not Championship..organized in the name of all Gladiators!
Be aware that my CM9000's personality, with name 'CM9 Gladiator' is best of best
Improvement, if comparing with all other tested Chessmaster settings...at least
Under these conditions, yes.. data is perfectly clear...Btw, what a lucky name ?)
For example, in the past with name 'The Gladiator' I used to play on Playchess
Plus I organized series of different Book+Eng Tours with 'Gladiator' name too!
Btw,(for anyone missed) CM9 Gladiator's performance was not so bad: Results
Note that in this tour: as far as possible I picked the highest-rated CM settings..
Sure I refer about other previous results (e.g based on CCRL, CEGT, SCCT etc)
Besides, as you see, all players are carefully picked, which are close in strength..
On other hand, I expected more from others CM settings especially from CM10th..
The current competition is ended.. but there is possibility to be resumed as well..
Note also that soon as possible I plan to organize other new Human-Like tours,
E.g with famous GMs personalities sure as books will be used theirs openings..
Ok chess friends. that's all for now..see you later..and thanks for your interest..)
For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... -gladiator
Have Fun
Greetings
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Breaking News - 03.02.2024:
Just another new CS and again the target to be like Human-Like yes all books
Are tuned prefer the Classical Champions openings, from the past to present...
Note also that time to time I run similar tournaments, e.g for previous: Results
And why again?... for several reasons, other tours played on older hardware..
Plus now many players are via different engines..close/adapted:Chessmetric
As other main diff. in older tours were CTG format, where now all books BIN
And as we see, via this tour Kasparov+Komodo managed to be Number One..
Be aware of that too, new CS is coming soon.e.g exactly the same books will
Be played by Cfish 030820... and let's see what will be the influences..at least
I can say..with the planning new book tour, the strongest books will be on Top...
Meanwhile, for more detailed information, you can read at OpenChess forum:
https://open-chess.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3911
The Champion: Kasparov + Komodo - Congrats to Kasparov, Komodo team!
FOR FINAL STANDINGS, GAMES, DETAILS:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... -like-cs-3
Greetings )
Just another new CS and again the target to be like Human-Like yes all books
Are tuned prefer the Classical Champions openings, from the past to present...
Note also that time to time I run similar tournaments, e.g for previous: Results
And why again?... for several reasons, other tours played on older hardware..
Plus now many players are via different engines..close/adapted:Chessmetric
As other main diff. in older tours were CTG format, where now all books BIN
And as we see, via this tour Kasparov+Komodo managed to be Number One..
Be aware of that too, new CS is coming soon.e.g exactly the same books will
Be played by Cfish 030820... and let's see what will be the influences..at least
I can say..with the planning new book tour, the strongest books will be on Top...
Meanwhile, for more detailed information, you can read at OpenChess forum:
https://open-chess.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3911
The Champion: Kasparov + Komodo - Congrats to Kasparov, Komodo team!
FOR FINAL STANDINGS, GAMES, DETAILS:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... -like-cs-3
Greetings )
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Hello Chess Friends,
Just I'd like to inform you that,
Unfortunately nowadays I have no free time for all..
That's why I will try to make weekly updates...
Thanks for your understanding
Meanwhile,
Here are my latest/recent organized tourneys:
https://sites.google.com/site/computerschess/
SCCT - Eng Test: Raub Vs Tetra
SCCT - Classic Championship II
SCCT - Book Championship LXVII
Best,
Sedat
Just I'd like to inform you that,
Unfortunately nowadays I have no free time for all..
That's why I will try to make weekly updates...
Thanks for your understanding
Meanwhile,
Here are my latest/recent organized tourneys:
https://sites.google.com/site/computerschess/
SCCT - Eng Test: Raub Vs Tetra
SCCT - Classic Championship II
SCCT - Book Championship LXVII
Best,
Sedat
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Breaking News - 20.02.2024:
Another BIG update (25 books are entered) and the standings are changed!
Exception for OPTIMUS book e.g Leading with clear points diff. (as before)
LesChats is managed to be 2nd, Tunafish is 3rd, where Pampa is 4th place
Very interesting is that Dominguez + So are both Human Book Champions!
Btw, some of the books suffer..not all, but I mean mostly of Legends series..
But we can not expect much from minus plus 150 - 200 years old openings..
Note also that tour is still active.. very soon more books will be entered too..
Eng Book Champion: OPTIMUS - Congratulations to Roger Constantinesco!
Human Book Champions: Dominguez + So -Congrats to Domínguez and So!
For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... book-cs-68
Best,
Sedat
Another BIG update (25 books are entered) and the standings are changed!
Exception for OPTIMUS book e.g Leading with clear points diff. (as before)
LesChats is managed to be 2nd, Tunafish is 3rd, where Pampa is 4th place
Very interesting is that Dominguez + So are both Human Book Champions!
Btw, some of the books suffer..not all, but I mean mostly of Legends series..
But we can not expect much from minus plus 150 - 200 years old openings..
Note also that tour is still active.. very soon more books will be entered too..
Eng Book Champion: OPTIMUS - Congratulations to Roger Constantinesco!
Human Book Champions: Dominguez + So -Congrats to Domínguez and So!
For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... book-cs-68
Best,
Sedat