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Posted: **Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:57 pm**

Well, the Duel match has been ended
+14 Elo (in favor for Everest 300923)

1   Everest 300923    +9/-5/=86 52.00%   52.0/100
2   Cubail's Everest  +5/-9/=86 48.00%   48.0/100

GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/LlIn2AQK#_MDplkbHX ... I9LMC3-P1o

Have fun,
Sedat

Posted: **Thu Dec 14, 2023 6:09 pm**

Breaking News (14.12.2023):
Another new series of tours organized, where Corchess performed as best!
But you may see too...if we are going to compare with previous results: XLV
We will see that almost no much Elo progress...but quite normal, since not
Long time past..for this reason in every 3-5 months I have to run these test...
Ok...that's all for now...exc. all NEW engines, which has CTG book future...
Are buggy again..sure in game-play mode, when using CTG opening books
E.g one of serious bug is that CTG green marked lines are not strictly used..
Plus Blue colored lines are used to play too...sad... where under Fritz GUI:
Blue colored moves are never played, besides, again several times buggy
Games, which are lost on time (disconnected from game).. but I admit that
Engine releases of May 2023 do not forfeit on time...but they are buggy too
Sure I mean in case of not following strictly the green marked opening lines...
Note: the mentioned CTG bugs are NOT related with current tourney...they
Are recorded on my CTG testings and again and again I hope to be fixed...
Thank you in advance )

XLVI's Champion: CorChess - Congratulations to I. Ivec, Stockfish Team!

For Final Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... t-nn-cs-46

Best,
Sedat

Posted: **Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:43 pm**

Breaking News - 16.12.2023:
Another new tour, but this time all participants are playing up to 10 moves!
What's new: for 1st time CTG book format is playing under CutechessGUI
To be more clear, I am referring about Perfect CTG book, which is playing
By new SF-SCCT NN engine, which is compatible to use CTG book formats
What I can say more, all of current books are created by Me...but they are
Based on high-rated engine games a few examples: Oliprog E is tuned to
Prefer openings played by Oliprog, but on Eng testings, not on Book test...
As other example, CEDR is tuned to prefer the openings in CEDR tours...
Balsa, Perfect, SCCT, Unique are my work, belongs to my Eng testings...
Btw, both Perfect books (CTG+BIN) are based on almost same openings..
Or CCRL, CEGT, SPCC, SSDF etc. are based on theirs recent games...
In other words, via this tour...we will have again a possibility to see which
Ratings, testings etc. are producing better, stronger opening lines, right ?!
In same time, we'll have chance to check which are strongest trend books
Sure under these cond..if nothing else, let's see what will be the influence...
For anyone missed, previous tour (up to 8 moves) can be viewed: Results
And please stay tuned... very soon more updates and details are coming!

The Current Book Leader CEDR - My Congratulations to CEDR team!

Current LIVE Standings of BN XXIII CS:

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Rank Name               Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 CEDR                38      25     111   55.4%   83.8% 
   2 Balsa 2022          31      24     112   54.5%   85.7% 
   3 Balsa 2023          25      24     110   53.6%   85.5% 
   4 SCCT                25      21     111   53.6%   89.2% 
   5 Unique              19      30     111   52.7%   78.4% 
   6 CCRL                19      24     112   52.7%   85.7% 
   7 Perfect CTG         12      17     114   51.8%   93.0% 
   8 Perfect BIN         12      24     114   51.8%   86.0% 
   9 TWIC                -3      28     112   49.6%   81.3% 
  10 CCC                 -3      28     111   49.5%   81.1% 
  11 Balsa 2021          -6      22     114   49.1%   87.7% 
  12 SSDF                -9      25     112   48.7%   84.8% 
  13 Oliprog E          -13      23     111   48.2%   87.4% 
  14 TCEC               -18      28     113   47.3%   80.5% 
  15 CEGT               -22      30     110   46.8%   79.1% 
  16 FCP                -28      28     110   45.9%   80.9% 
  17 FGRL               -32      30     110   45.5%   78.2% 
  18 SPCC               -47      36     112   43.3%   68.8% 

  1005 of 7650 games finished.

For More Info:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-23

Best,
Sedat

Posted: **Sat Dec 16, 2023 4:50 pm**

Update 2 (LIVE Ranking)

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 CEDR                           25      19     241   53.5%   80.5% 
   2 Perfect BIN                    22      15     241   53.1%   88.0% 
   3 Balsa 2022                     22      16     242   53.1%   86.4% 
   4 SCCT                           16      16     241   52.3%   86.3% 
   5 CCRL                           16      16     241   52.3%   87.1% 
   6 Balsa 2023                     15      18     238   52.1%   84.0% 
   7 Perfect CTG                    14      12     242   52.1%   91.7% 
   8 Unique                          7      19     240   51.0%   81.3% 
   9 TWIC                            3      18     239   50.4%   82.4% 
  10 SSDF                            3      16     241   50.4%   86.7% 
  11 CCC                            -1      18     241   49.8%   83.0% 
  12 Balsa 2021                     -7      17     240   49.0%   85.4% 
  13 Oliprog E                      -9      16     239   48.7%   86.6% 
  14 FCP                           -15      19     239   47.9%   81.6% 
  15 CEGT                          -22      18     241   46.9%   82.2% 
  16 FGRL                          -22      19     238   46.8%   81.9% 
  17 TCEC                          -23      19     240   46.7%   80.8% 
  18 SPCC                          -44      24     238   43.7%   70.6% 

2161 of 7650 games finished.

Posted: **Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:11 pm**

Update 3 (LIVE Ranking):

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 Perfect BIN                    24      10     586   53.4%   87.4% 
   2 CEDR                           18      11     587   52.6%   84.8% 
   3 Balsa 2022                     17      10     587   52.5%   86.5% 
   4 Perfect CTG                    17       8     588   52.4%   91.2% 
   5 SCCT                           14      10     589   52.0%   87.3% 
   6 Balsa 2023                     10      11     587   51.4%   85.9% 
   7 Unique                          9      12     588   51.3%   82.5% 
   8 CCC                             7      11     588   50.9%   84.2% 
   9 CCRL                            3      10     587   50.4%   86.5% 
  10 Balsa 2021                      1      11     588   50.1%   85.5% 
  11 SSDF                           -3      11     588   49.6%   84.5% 
  12 Oliprog E                      -4      10     589   49.5%   86.4% 
  13 TWIC                           -4      10     586   49.5%   86.7% 
  14 TCEC                          -12      12     588   48.3%   83.0% 
  15 CEGT                          -15      12     588   47.8%   83.0% 
  16 FGRL                          -19      11     587   47.3%   84.3% 
  17 FCP                           -21      12     587   46.9%   80.9% 
  18 SPCC                          -41      14     588   44.1%   73.6% 

5288 of 7650 games finished.

Posted: **Sun Dec 17, 2023 11:06 am**

Breaking News - 17.12.2023:
Well, the round - robin tour (which prefer various openings) is completed..
Perfect, CEDR, Balsa, Unique, SCCT, CCC... are performed really good !
A few words about Unique book: not bad, in case of strength + low draws
Perc. values...what we can need more?) 25+ years experience helps.. !)
On other hand, CEDR plus CCC proved their strength in older tours too!
Btw, CCC is based on games between 2018-2020 (latest I couldn't find..)
Where unfortunately and usually SPCC's openings suffers a lot that's why
Instead of SPCC, as next constant one will be entered the same Neptune,
Which is tuned to prefer many GMs openings (e.g participated in BN XXII)
Note that I already started testing many of the Tend opening books as well
And as 1st start, as far as possible, I will pick qualified players of BN XXII
Sure, as alternative other CTG books will be entered: DON Free, Grendel
Ok.that's all for now, new updates are coming soon and good luck to all! )

Current Book Leader: Perfect- as usual, one of best in case of short lines!
And I hope to see other Number One, because once is enough as Champ
Note also that since 2007: my target / rule is not to be Winner of my tours..

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Rank Name               Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 Perfect BIN         23       8     850   53.2%   86.7% 
   2 CEDR                16       9     850   52.4%   85.9% 
   3 Perfect CTG         16       7     850   52.3%   90.5% 
   4 Balsa 2022          13       9     850   51.9%   86.2% 
   5 Unique              12      10     850   51.8%   82.4% 
   6 Balsa 2023          12       9     850   51.7%   85.1% 
   7 SCCT                11       8     850   51.5%   86.8% 
   8 CCC                  9       9     850   51.2%   84.1% 
   9 Balsa 2021           2       9     850   50.4%   86.6% 
  10 CCRL                 0       8     850   50.1%   86.9% 
  11 SSDF                 0       9     850   50.0%   84.2% 
  12 TWIC                -2       8     850   49.7%   86.9% 
  13 Oliprog E           -4       8     850   49.5%   87.2% 
  14 CEGT               -16      10     850   47.8%   83.1% 
  15 TCEC               -16      10     850   47.6%   82.1% 
  16 FGRL               -17       9     850   47.5%   83.8% 
  17 FCP                -20      10     850   47.1%   82.2% 
  18 SPCC               -40      12     850   44.3%   74.7% 

  7650 of 7650 games finished.

Posted: **Sun Dec 17, 2023 5:05 pm**

Another New Update - Calculated by Chessbase

New Entries Standings - Played vs Constant books so far:

Be aware of that,
Soon as possible current entries will be played each other too!

And interesting to point out that (under Cutechess GUI)
Two CTG books (DON + Grendel) are with best performance so far, nice..

Current Leader: Grendel - Congrats to Massimiliano Goi!

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Rank   Book Player              Elo    Games
1	Grendel 081023		2373	360
2	DON Free 2023		2371	360
3	Lion 110423		2370	360
4	Sun		        2368	360
5	Dragon Tooth		2367	360
6	Drifter		        2365	360
7	Taram		        2363	380
8	Everest 300923		2363	380
9	CachoSCCT opt2		2363	360
10	Unicornio		2362	360
11	Xperimental v1		2361	360
12	Yoruba 091123		2361	360
13	OPTIMUS 2311		2361	360
14	LesChats 151223		2359	380
15	SENTINEL 3		2356	380
16	OlisFish 201123		2355	360
17	Bloom 090723		2355	360
18	Beast		        2355	360
19	LooseCanon		2354	380
20	ChessBot 170623		2353	360
21	Goddess		        2352	360
22	Red Dragon		2349	380
23	Dara Light		2349	360
24	HCanFree Upd		2348	380
25	ORIONPAX3		2344	380

And here is another ranking of Constant books, e.g
They are tuned to prefer more various openings:

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Rank   Book Player              Elo    Games
1	Perfect BIN		2354	1390
2	Perfect CTG		2354	1390
3	CEDR		        2353	1390
4	Unique		        2349	1390
5	SCCT		        2348	1390
6	Balsa 2023		2347	1390
7	Balsa 2022		2346	1390
8	Balsa 2021		2345	1390
9	CCC		        2343	1390
10	Neptune		        2340	1220
11	SSDF		        2339	1390
12	TWIC		        2338	1390
13	CCRL		        2338	1390
14	Oliprog E	        2336	1390
15	TCEC		        2326	1390
16	FGRL		        2324	1390
17	FCP		        2321	1390
18	CEGT		        2320	1390
19	SPCC		        2302	1050

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:52 am**

Breaking News - 18.12.2023:
Grendel, Grendel, Grendel managed to be as first Public Champ..nice!
Where Lion book (even as not so new) managed to be Private Champion!
And as you may see too, via this HUGE update...too many book entries!
Actually a lot of words to say, but no free time for all exc Grendel's author
Mr. Goi is requested his latest book to be participant (for previous tours)
But unfortunately I could not... as reason I use CuteChess GUI...but via
SF-SCCT engine, now his wish is done, plus as other CTG book entries:
Exc. Perfect, DON Free 2023, 1337chess 070422 are participated so far
Btw, just out of curiosity, many former Champion books entered as well e.g
Some of oldies are DON light2+Champ, they were Winners many times!
But they are old-dated e.g, Champ is based on 2018, DON Light on 2020
Be aware of that too, so far all CTG books are played with option Width 2
In same that means, not all of the main green colored moves are played!
For examples, Perfect CTG's main moves (as green) are d4, e4, c4, Nf3
But played only d4 and e4, sure with Width 4 prefers all the 4 main moves,
But just in case with Width 4, sometimes the disabled lines are preferring..
Sure I refer for some deeper positions..for this reason...Width 2 is safer..
Sure I' am meaning up to 10 moves, but what about in deeper openings?
Frankly, the situation is critical..as I mentioned before, even with Width 1
Frequently even the disabled lines are used to play..for this reason, I hope
All the next engine releases (with CTG book future) to be fixed....thanks...
Ok..the current tour is still active..e.g 25 other opening books are coming!
Let's see... both Champs (Grendel and Lion) will hold the tittles or not ?!)

Public Book Champion Grendel - My Congratulations to Massimiliano Goi!
Prıvate Opening Book Champion Lion - Congratulations to AJ Lamprecht!

For Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... k-nn-cs-23

Best,
Sedat

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 6:13 pm**

Strength Test - Raubfish SC vs SF-SCCT

Bullet (1m+0.6s): No Elo difference (identical)

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1   SF-SCCT 250122     +114/-114/=1568 50.00%  898.0/1796 
2   Raubfish X48c3 SC  +114/-114/=1568 50.00%  898.0/1796

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Blitz (2m+1s): +1 Elo difference (almost identical)

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1   Raubfish X48c3 SC  +51/-47/=902 50.20%  502.0/1000
2   SF-SCCT 250122     +47/-51/=902 49.80%  498.0/1000

GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/u5oyjbiB#gUp-vZysn ... 1W0pqnnJWQ

Conditions:
2x Epyc 7B12, CuteChess, 1 Core, PonderOFF, Balsa+Unique, 128 Hash, 4-MEN

Greetings

Posted: **Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:33 am**

Hi Seat,

How I can find the SF-SCCT engine ?
Thanks in advance.

All the best.

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