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By the way,,
All (1000) games are uploaded of latest Bullet (30s+0.6s) SF11 vs SF10 NON-NN:
https://mega.nz/file/bsgWWT7Y#wzcS2yZym ... NruoukA0QU

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Hello Chess Friends )

Here are the new size rules, for next planning Book CS:
Note: These size rules may be changed..(till tour start)

Small: Up to 15 MB
Medium: 16 - 65 MB
Large: 66 - 255 MB
Giant: 256 - 1 GB


More Details:
All opening books are allowed (private plus public books too)
Per League/s: Several books are allowed (by same author), but
As usually, each other have to be different in playing styles!
In Giant: For known/frequent authors, thanks for understanding

As main chess engine,
All entries will be played by 9-times Champion: Cfish 030820 C40
Some may play by various engines too, close in strength to Cfish
But note that the less drawish chess engines will be participated...
You may know, there are plenty of Top chess engines, but theirs
Produced draw ratio is really waste of time and not so stable plus
It does mot mean when 'newer' is better... sometimes Retro ones
Can be better...as reference check latest Stockfish 17 test! exc.
SF17's very high draw ratio..plus we noticed time forfeit etc. Btw,
Even in early of 2000 years, the chess engines were more stable !!
What happened much that some programmers job become as worse ?
If was a opening book I cıuld try to help.. but here I wonder much...

Continuing...

In other words, via planning new 'SIZE' Championship Book Leagues,
It's expecting more fair / unique game-play styles / more fun! since
I expect to appear more wins..if not.. too boring if almost all draws!

And without tıo not mention this I can not as well )
In case of dislikes etc..I suggest NON-SCCT results...enough over
Long past years...mostly of these critics are pointless...because
The way which I work, forget everything...even many are not aware
About what is going on.. and very likely they think that these tours
Are as joke..but no problem..if all like my work that means simply
I'm doing it wrong...be sure, no way to satisfy all, it's impossible!
Of course, in case of any question/s.. please don't hesitate to ask..

Be aware of that too please,
I've a lot of private mails, where mostly are grateful to my chess activities!
In short, we should not concentrate only over the negative people/posts...
E.g mostly chess friends are quite kind and good persons...otherwise,
Since a long long time, I would be out from our computer chess scene..
But this is also true, my job is not so easy...just imagine...so many and
Different people + successful tours..over long past years and by single TD )
And sure there will be attacks by spoiled, conceited, dishonest guys etc.
It is something like as 'nature rules' !) besides, without all of them..
Our World...would not be much boring too ?)

On other hand,
I admit too that my work is not perfect..Btw, what about yours ?)
And can you share please..but over than 1000+ of games (per player)
But a small note, with many players as well...then we can discuss..
Actually I am not against critics too, but only in friendly way )

But anyhow, let's hope for more positive people and good news too,
And let's hope also that the same mistake/s to not appear as twice!

More info soon as possible and meantime be ready for the 'real' Arena )

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UPDATE

To be more clear,
Why these kind of conditions are planning? as I stated earlier for
More accurate/fair/wins/fun...plus it's boring if each time same!
And once more, it is all in our hands...No one is forcing us to be
Played all books via BIG assistance, right?..besides, this is not as best
Way to check which books are strongest, because via BIG assistance:
Such as Slower TC, MP, Ponder ON, BIG Evalfiles etc. are not best,
Ideal systems to check who are best, as we know, with less help etc.
Then no doubt that the planning book tournaments will be harder as
- Climbing to mountain Everest..like at highest point: 8,848m !)

Btw, let's imagine (under if better/optimal cond.)..e.g we will set
BIG NN, MP, Ponder ON, Blitz, Rapid..wow..perfect )) but what about
Fun? What about accurate ranks? Error margin? I mean just in case...
Then how many games needed to be produced? how many of them will be
Ended as wins?) I'd try..but my hardware + electricity is not cheap)

Meanwhile (just out of curiosity about what will be the influences)
Since mostly of book entries will be played by Cfish 030820 as well..
I realized to run a new gauntlet tour, where again same Number Ones
Of 2006-2010 years openings e.g now all books played by Cfish 030820

And as we see, again and again...
Perfect 16 book has another unbelievable / unforgettable records !!
Where at present with 57% Wining Percentage and with 68% DrawRatio!
Moreover, this time P16 managed to overcome any Number One of past..
E.g in some recent tours...P16 is lost to several other Champions..
And once more, non of theirs deep opening lines are touched...I mean
They are tuned to prefer their orginal openings (played in 2006-2010)

What I can say more,
If your openings are not so bad..it does not matter so much too,
Such as NN or as without NN...all in your hands.. just take it!
If you can not.. no any problem at all.. because all for fun !)
But a small request, before starting creating a opening book:
Please pay atteention at least to quality games/database/s...

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   0 Perfect 16                     50      15     650   57.1%   68.0% 
   1 CompMaster                    -14      43      50   48.0%   80.0% 
   2 OmPrakash                     -21      56      50   47.0%   66.0% 
   3 Experimental                  -21      56      50   47.0%   66.0% 
   4 Magnificent                   -28      55      50   46.0%   68.0% 
   5 Ultra-Blitz                   -42      42      50   44.0%   80.0% 
   6 My Book                       -42      61      50   44.0%   60.0% 
   7 Yograj                        -49      56      50   43.0%   66.0% 
   8 Hurricane                     -49      48      50   43.0%   74.0% 
   9 Perfect 13x                   -56      58      50   42.0%   64.0% 
  10 Rybka III                     -63      59      50   41.0%   62.0% 
  11 Xmas2640                      -85      48      50   38.0%   72.0% 
  12 Perfect 13                    -85      60      50   38.0%   60.0% 
  13 Rybka II                      -92      54      50   37.0%   66.0% 
GAMES:
https://mega.nz/file/6txS2QBR#x9zgPvhf- ... -hX7nbArD0

Conditions:
2x Epyc 7B12, CuteChess, 1 Core, Ponder OFF, 1m+06s, 64 MB Hash, 4-MEN

Ok friends, very likely tomorrow, I'm going to start the event!
And as firstly as players with the ones, which are small in sizes..

Good luck to all )

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Update 2

Well, here are 1st results of Small CS (up to 15 mb uncompressed)
Sure the competition is just in beginning..error margin can be high
That's why it is too early for any serious conclusions...so let's see
What will be standings after more games.. but anyhow, it is clear
Minus plus who are as beast/best..at least under hard conditions!
Btw, do not forget to check please overall draw ratio (per player)
And yes no doubt that here is a bloody tour, via BIG fight for sure!!

Current Number One: Geralt - My Congratulations to Ian Hurnavich!
Plus not so bad performance by Skynet (SCCT) 180724, Rodent Z etc.

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 Geralt                         28      21     265   54.0%   74.7% 
   2 Skynet 180724                  21      21     265   53.0%   73.6% 
   3 Rodent Z                       16      21     267   52.2%   73.8% 
   4 CaterpillaR v1.0               12      22     264   51.7%   72.3% 
   5 Hazel Upd3                     12      21     266   51.7%   74.1% 
   6 OldScool                       10      21     265   51.5%   75.1% 
   7 SappHire                        8      22     266   51.1%   72.9% 
   8 Castigo                         4      19     264   50.6%   78.4% 
   9 C-Attack                        3      21     265   50.4%   75.8% 
  10 HuckleBerry v11                 0      20     266   50.0%   76.7% 
  11 Balaklava                      -1      21     265   49.8%   74.0% 
  12 AbbyStein v2.0                 -4      20     264   49.4%   76.1% 
  13 Pampa 3                        -8      21     267   48.9%   74.5% 
  14 Africaata 290224               -9      20     264   48.7%   76.9% 
  15 Oran                          -12      21     267   48.3%   74.9% 
  16 Best 260824                   -13      21     266   48.1%   74.4% 
  17 Turkey 2024                   -14      20     265   47.9%   76.2% 
  18 Cevdet 2024                   -20      22     266   47.2%   71.1% 
  19 SlowChess 2.9                 -32      24     263   45.4%   65.8% 

SPRT: llr 0 (0.0%), lbound -inf, ubound inf
2520 of 4788 games finished.
Conditions:
2x Epyc 7B12, CuteChess, 1 Core, Ponder OFF, 1m+06s, 64 MB Hash, 4-MEN

More Details:
- All books via Cfish 030820 C40 exc. SlowChess 2.9 + its own book
- Former Champ: Turkey 2024 is original one (not based on OPTIMUS)
- All the book participants will contain min. 1000 games (per player)
And that means, after 1000 games: Champ titles will be determined

More updates soon as possible..

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UPDATE 3

Rodent Z takes the lead...Congratulations to Nate Smith!
But Geralt, Skynet etc. are serious Champ candidates too
You may know..in the next rounds..everything may happen!

Note also that,
Exc. current players, there will be new entries as well..
Btw, so far all books are 2024 releases and created by other
Book Authors .. I mean simply that they are not my work...
Sure later I hope to include some based books too, such as
SCCT, CCRL, TCEC etc. which will be played by other NN
Chess engines, but all very close to Cfish..actually mostly
Of them are slightly weaker minus plus 5-10 Elo... in short:
In this way we will have more chances to see diff. game styles,
Plus to check which are stronger in overall openings as well!

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 Rodent Z                       23      17     428   53.3%   72.4% 
   2 Geralt                         20      17     429   52.9%   74.6% 
   3 Skynet 180724                  17      17     431   52.4%   73.3% 
   4 Hazel Upd3                     11      16     430   51.5%   75.1% 
   5 Castigo                         8      16     431   51.2%   77.3% 
   6 Balaklava                       6      17     431   50.9%   74.5% 
   7 C-Attack                        6      16     430   50.8%   76.0% 
   8 SappHire                        3      17     429   50.5%   74.4% 
   9 AbbyStein v2.0                  2      16     431   50.3%   75.6% 
  10 HuckleBerry v11                 1      16     428   50.1%   76.4% 
  11 CaterpillaR v1.0               -2      17     430   49.8%   71.6% 
  12 OldScool                       -5      16     429   49.3%   76.2% 
  13 Turkey 2024                    -6      16     433   49.1%   76.9% 
  14 Cevdet 2024                    -7      17     430   49.0%   72.3% 
  15 Pampa 3                        -8      17     428   48.8%   73.8% 
  16 Africaata 290224              -11      16     432   48.4%   76.4% 
  17 Oran                          -12      17     430   48.3%   73.7% 
  18 Best 260824                   -20      18     432   47.1%   70.6% 
  19 SlowChess 2.9                 -25      18     430   46.4%   69.5% 

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UPDATE 4

For right now,
Geralt is Number One again..really interesting and very impressive!
Rodent is 2nd..very good, where 3rd is Skynet, not so bad as well..
We will see..this time who will say the last word...but Geralt seems
To be more close (in distance) to highest point of Everest mountain!

Note also that,
Yoruba 230824 (by Jorge Centelles) is the next new entry...plus many
More players will be entered as well..

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Rank Name                          Elo     +/-   Games   Score    Draw 
   1 Geralt                         28      15     504   54.1%   74.4% 
   2 Rodent Z                       19      16     504   52.8%   71.8% 
   3 Skynet 180724                  14      16     504   52.0%   72.6% 
   4 Castigo                        13      14     504   51.9%   78.4% 
   5 Balaklava                       8      15     504   51.1%   74.8% 
   6 Hazel Upd3                      6      15     504   50.9%   74.8% 
   7 SappHire                        4      15     504   50.6%   74.6% 
   8 AbbyStein v2.0                  3      15     504   50.5%   75.6% 
   9 HuckleBerry v11                 1      14     504   50.1%   77.2% 
  10 CaterpillaR v1.0                0      16     504   50.0%   71.0% 
  11 C-Attack                        0      15     504   50.0%   74.2% 
  12 Turkey 2024                    -6      15     504   49.2%   76.2% 
  13 Pampa 3                        -6      15     504   49.2%   74.2% 
  14 Cevdet 2024                   -10      16     504   48.5%   72.0% 
  15 Africaata 290224              -10      15     504   48.5%   75.6% 
  16 OldScool                      -12      15     504   48.3%   74.4% 
  17 Oran                          -14      16     504   48.0%   73.4% 
  18 Best 260824                   -17      16     504   47.5%   71.6% 
  19 SlowChess 2.9                 -22      17     504   46.8%   69.0% 

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Breaking News (19.09.2024):
1st of all, let Me say please about tournament logo, it's a Everest mountain!
And once more...to gain..to be...on Top under these conditions is very hard!
That's why I could not find any better tournament picture, regarding all over..
And I hope that you like my idea of realizing to be as Everest mountain logo ?)
About Geralt performance: unbelievable record...only a few steps are left..!
Besides/rather I'd day Geralt is even old dated/belongs/released 01.04.2024
Sure we should not forget to mention Castigo, Rodent etc are great as well!
Actually as same words are going for many others too but no free time for all
Btw, some my created books are merged into one player (e.g TCEC/SPCC),
In short they are based on data/wins (played in SCCT tours) but unfortunately,
Due to their wins are not enough...are in One book, thanks for understanding
And they are merged/picked...which are close in strength (according to stats)
One thing more, current overall drawratio (based on 14850 games) 69% nice!
And to be honest, I can not remember similar very low draw values by 3600+
Ok friends, that's all for now...soon as possible I hope to share new updates )

The Current Leader (Up to 15 MB): Geralt - Congratulations to Ian Hurnavich!

For More Details, Latest Standings:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... ok-cs-1-sz

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UPDATE

By the way,
Some Eng player names are shorten:

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BF = Brainfish 240720
BS = Berserk 8.5
ES = Equisetum 1.0
Eman = Eman 5.62
KV = KoiVisto 8.0
SF = Stockfish XIr4
Slow = SlowChess 2.9
For any questions, please feel to ask..

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Breaking News (20.09.2024):
Via this update now is clear who managed to be on highest point of Everest:
The name of this great book: Geralt, yes...one of strongest that ever seen !!

And with kind permission (by Mr Ian Hurnavich) Gerald available Download:
https://mega.nz/file/jsRigZDI#XLhbbXhvA ... YYZ8R71aFg
Gerald's recommended settings are Best Move: Disabled / Book Depth: 100

2nd rank is currently Castigo (by Mr. Morano), in short, no BIG surprise at all,
Because just in case if Top Authors books will be NOT on Top...then I start to
Wonder such as perhaps there is something wrong in my tourney conditions)
3rd Rodent (by Mr. Nate):very good too... On other hand, I'm very impressed
By GM Champs performance as well, tuned to prefer GM Champions: LXVIII
Btw, I'm very pleased to announce also that
The lowest / incredible draw records are belonging to my work: SCCT + BS
With 57%, moreover Unique 3800+ KV book has very low draw-ratio too: 58%
Note that as main influence are played here the openings plus NN engines too!
And here calculation tools, stats are talking (not papers, magnifying glasses..)
Why I say like that? because my work is highly criticized over long past years..
Yes, they tried their best to damage my work, some tried that my openings are
Drawish much but they forgot to mention that my short openings are stronger!
And once more, if you try 'weak' openings... then run thousands of games per
Player, otherwise the ERROR margin will be high...just saying and hope helps!
Because these 'clever' guys will never tell the true that they are weak and it s
Needed thousands of games (per player)...this is our World.. reality is reality!!
If still mot so clear..come to SCCT..in real Arena...then we can discuss more )
Note also that ongoing SMALL CS (up to 15 MB) will be ended soon, but before
A new small SENTINEL book vers. (by Mr. Roger) is expecting to be entered...

The Champion / Number One (Up to 15 MB) Geralt - Congrats to Ian Hurnavich!

FOR LATEST STANDINGS:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... ok-cs-1-sz

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Breaking News (21.09.2024):
Small Size CS (up to 15 MB) is over, thanks and congratulations to all authors!
SENTINEL 2409 is the latest entry...which performed on same level as Geralt!!
Yes despite on thunderstorm winds, these Warriors are tireless, they have only
One mission: to destroy the opponent! and they proved to be so...not once not
Twice...many many times...Note also that both Top books are titled as Champs!
Yes, they are with equal points, but there will be no Tie-Break match as reason:
Geralt is publicly available, where SENTINEL is private..otherwise, just in case
Of organizing a such Duel match... it will be not fair at all...right?
You may know, via SCCT tours: I'm doing my best for more fair test conditions!
Forget everything, even there are such testers, who still prefer: NN vs NON-NN
(Btw, I'm one of them) but at least I say: my used engines are close in strength ))
And this is not all..there are also such testers who prefer Learning EXP vs NON
Learning BIN books, sad indeed...maybe more time is required to take lessons )
What is more strange..there are CTG books too, which have learning future..but
Unfortunately they are staying far...really I have no much idea about why? but it
Seems they are not aware of CTG + Fritz GUIs... anyhow all right on the night !)
Meanwhile, Medium Size CS is started as well, wishing good luck to all players!

The Champions: Geralt / SENTINEL- Congrats to Hurnavich / Constantinesco!

FOR FINAL STANDINGS:
https://sites.google.com/site/computers ... ok-cs-1-sz

GAMES (after when all SIZE CS will be ended, thanks for understanding)

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